"It is not known why the pulling cable snapped."

Tragic? Yes.
Accident? NO!
"...he had left a fork-shaped bracket on the cable car’s emergency brake to disable it because it kept locking on..."

Likely, the emergency brakes were dragging and the wire rope was periodically overloaded.

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  1. Critical Event

    Critical Event

    پیش 7 روز

    Even if the cable hadn't broken, motor failure is a thing and there's a brake on those hat is the usual cause of accidents with these cable lift systems.

    • J

      J

      پیش ساعت

      Italy is a corrupt shithole.

    • Horst Wagner

      Horst Wagner

      پیش 3 ساعت

      @Scanjo99 In ancient times people were contolled by people, nowadays they are controlled by computers(programs)

    • Scott Cates

      Scott Cates

      پیش روز

      @james makky Whatchoo got against Vista?

    • aaron estrada

      aaron estrada

      پیش روز

      @bbg5000 I work in Fire suppression systems... everyone cancelled their inspections because of the pandemic. 🙄 apparently having contractors in the building is far more dangerous than skipping safety system inspection/service

    • Mike King

      Mike King

      پیش روز

      @PlumbSmuggler criminal negligence

  2. joshmdmd

    joshmdmd

    پیش 11 دقیقه

    THE ISSUE IS NOT EVERYONE DOING WORK HAS ACCESS TO THE STANDARDS. EVERY FUCKING STANDARD COSTS A FORTUNE AND YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT WILL BE APPLICABLE TO YOUR APPLICATION.

  3. george mira

    george mira

    پیش ساعت

    X-ray of cables is done periodically - your posting is foul spam.

  4. Yyunko

    Yyunko

    پیش ساعت

    one in a million events happen one out of ten times, paraphrased from Pratchett

  5. Admiral Bob

    Admiral Bob

    پیش 3 ساعت

    The arrogance to decide that something included on every version of this thing is unnecessary according to you...

  6. Sandra Braithwaite

    Sandra Braithwaite

    پیش 4 ساعت

    when the JAL serviceman didn't check his rivets and it downed a fully loaded 747, he committed suicide. pretty decent apology

  7. Gordon Quickstad

    Gordon Quickstad

    پیش 4 ساعت

    F'in this and F'in that so what the F happened? Why I'll be F'ed that was F'ed up.

  8. James Enns

    James Enns

    پیش 5 ساعت

    All reports should be made public, and by reports I mean the system faults in the last quarter and the maintenance reports that show it fixed. Those should be posted somewhere either online or in hard copy right at the point of sale for the tickets. At least then people could preform their own risk factor analysis and determine if they accept the potential risks or not.

  9. Oceanic 84

    Oceanic 84

    پیش 5 ساعت

    [06/15/21] It's patently clear from your tone of voice that this incident, and needless loss of life has upset you. We are with you on that brother. We know that tragedies will happen, but they are all the more anger inducing when we learn that they were totally avoidable, and were caused by human negligence, faults, or poor human judgements.

  10. The world's greatest game

    The world's greatest game

    پیش 10 ساعت

    The truth that the world is only three meals away from total chaos is never more apparent than to the man who's insistence that people come before profit will render him unemployed. They never fix the problems, they just remove the people pointing them out.

  11. Brian Bender

    Brian Bender

    پیش 13 ساعت

    Very unprofessional. I watched the first 3 minutes and gave up. 👎🏿

  12. Brenton Lugrin

    Brenton Lugrin

    پیش 15 ساعت

    Do you have any opinion on the gondola at Grouse Mountain?

  13. Soy Bomber

    Soy Bomber

    پیش 17 ساعت

    and thats why libertarians are morons.

  14. matthew anderson

    matthew anderson

    پیش 17 ساعت

    No airbags or seatbelts?

  15. J2B

    J2B

    پیش 17 ساعت

    God I love all your videos, skooky!

  16. Tony G

    Tony G

    پیش 19 ساعت

    Ok we're gonna run the haul cable very slow and you check for broken strands, call us on your phone if you find any..

  17. GCDesign

    GCDesign

    پیش 21 ساعت

    Based AvE

  18. Horn

    Horn

    پیش 23 ساعت

    Famous last words "I ain't never seen this before" "No way this could go wrong"

  19. john higgins

    john higgins

    پیش 23 ساعت

    Your right and its very sad

  20. Cory Berends

    Cory Berends

    پیش روز

    This is the saddest thing thats happened in a while

  21. James Cross

    James Cross

    پیش روز

    The thing is for every occurrence like this there are 10 that are unseen, undiscovered just waiting...

  22. joe loney

    joe loney

    پیش روز

    I would never go in one of these

  23. himselfe

    himselfe

    پیش روز

    I honestly can't wait until humans are mostly taken out of the management equation.

  24. roger brandt

    roger brandt

    پیش روز

    Those poor people, should all be in heaven for the minute of hell they went through, fucking kuntz.

  25. roger brandt

    roger brandt

    پیش روز

    Sir you ever been up the Banff one,? Beautiful scenery, cheers from Chestermere.

  26. K. R.

    K. R.

    پیش روز

    "Parts don't fail, people do"

  27. Dark Guardian

    Dark Guardian

    پیش روز

    The accident reminds me of the 1998 Cavalese Cable Car accident caused by a low flying USMC EA-6 Prowler. I initially thought it happened again since those cables are not suppose to break.

  28. Razor 1uk

    Razor 1uk

    پیش روز

    You are correct in your summisation. I believe the cable car was unused during lockdown, and in addition too your comment insight the cable would develope weathered corrosion in more places, as well as some uneven sagging, likely too, most or all the tensioning adjustments was also already used up IMHO too. And rather than afford the costs of re-caballing the ride before opening, they tried to earn it first. Likely a key owner/investor of the ride operators are mafia/local government/syndicate connected, and forced the issue to open up for the public.

  29. Stu Dunn

    Stu Dunn

    پیش روز

    If i ever have kids, and that's a big if, I hope to hammer home that one line, "you don't need to be a hero just follow the fucking rules" lol

  30. 50srefugee

    50srefugee

    پیش روز

    One of the things you learn out on the shooting range is that gun "accidents" are very rare. NEGLIGENT discharges, on the other hand, are relatively common.

  31. CleaveMountaineering

    CleaveMountaineering

    پیش روز

    In the aerial adventure industry we call it "fail to safe." Thanks for the analysis, that's just aweful. I've done some pull testing of wire rope including one that went through a forest fire.

  32. niklar55

    niklar55

    پیش روز

    Over and over the demand for profit kills people.

  33. Roberto Lo Giacco

    Roberto Lo Giacco

    پیش روز

    Being Italian I appreciated your lack of words anytime you tried to dig down into the rabbit hole.... there's no word to describe it. Thanks mate

  34. Axel Montini

    Axel Montini

    پیش روز

    In italy the infrastructure is basically a giant minefield. Imagine: you are transporting a 35t cargo on a bridge that has a 40t safety limit. The bridge collapses. The company that transports it is at fault, even if it's is rated for 40t. To carry parts needed to build a chemical plant, every road on the truck's path needs to be analyzed by the company itself, even if the cargo is nowhere near the stated bridge limit.

  35. Peter Saunders

    Peter Saunders

    پیش روز

    I watch movies like Jurassic Park or Jaws or Towering inferno (yes I am old) and they always teach us the same lesson, corporate = death, the sad lesson is we don’t want to or can’t learn. Although this accident will cost the industry millions in a few months we will have forgotten this incident and me included will be back using the cable cars. When I buy the ticket I am not thinking Safety I am thinking connivence just like getting in my car I sadly take for granted that the brakes will work so I do not have to take the bus ………

  36. Arkady Bron

    Arkady Bron

    پیش روز

    Complacency has always been the most dangerous thing in engineering.

  37. The Flash

    The Flash

    پیش روز

    In a communist country the technician would be sent to gulag. The manager would have been shot. Something to take from that...

  38. Curtis Nixon

    Curtis Nixon

    پیش روز

    Should be called A.S. = Artificial Stupidity

  39. c0ntag10n

    c0ntag10n

    پیش روز

    12:51 the pursuit of profit will always undermine, and eventually neuter, any strong framework on a long enough timescale. the only solution is to eliminate the profit motive completely

  40. Paul Bro

    Paul Bro

    پیش روز

    If you know anything about Italy, no explanation is required

  41. ChrisD4335

    ChrisD4335

    پیش روز

    i know when my brakes don't work right on my car I just take the calipers off, yup problem solved...

  42. Clinton Scott

    Clinton Scott

    پیش روز

    Thanks for pissing me off tonight...

  43. Clinton Scott

    Clinton Scott

    پیش روز

    I got through 5 minutes and 5 seconds 9f this video before I snapped into a judgement as to th e most culpable person for this accident. The maintenance technician who disabled the brakes. In his thirty years he's never seen a time where the brakes had to be used. EXCUSES USED BY A LAZY EXCUSE FOR A HUMAN BEING. WHEN do you EVER disable a safety feature for normal use?

  44. I AM THE HIGHWAY

    I AM THE HIGHWAY

    پیش روز

    I'm a Touring Production Rigger in the entertainment industry. (Roadie) (Carnie) you get the picture. I really enjoyed your take on this as I've seen similar disaster scenarios over my 35 yrs and it seams the lack of oversight as well as sheer laziness and lack of due diligence combine to form a catastrophic failure. Thanks AvE

  45. C Little

    C Little

    پیش روز

    mean while epa is shutting down companies for exaustpipes or pcms ecms same difference. aside from it being in Italy we have shyt just as dangerous

  46. Michael Erickson

    Michael Erickson

    پیش روز

    Down time

  47. Aramis419

    Aramis419

    پیش روز

    Well, as the saying goes, “Anyone can build a bridge, but it takes an engineer to BARELY build a bridge.”

    • Nate S

      Nate S

      پیش 8 ساعت

      Only reason engineers build things with a safety factor of 1 or just above 1 like 1.1 is due to businesses that fund their life do so. Engineering ethics and practices encourage otherwise. Most case studies present not an engineer failure but project management, manager decision failure, or maintenance failure that leads towards these incidents. This is due to the engineering always working on Worse Case Scenarios for designs. Failure to listen to engineers insights leads towards these catastrophes.

    • MattPP

      MattPP

      پیش 20 ساعت

      “Anyone can build a bridge, but it takes an engineer to build a bridge that barely stands up.” Although not relevant in this case.

    • ptrinch

      ptrinch

      پیش 20 ساعت

      Reminds me of what one of my engineering professors told me many years ago. The only reason we still have ancient Roman bridges is because they were bad engineers. They used the same proportions whether spanning 100 meters or 10 meters. As a result, the shorter spans were so over engineered that they lasted thousands of years. Don't know if it's true... but a fun story none the less.

    • Eli Eli Lema

      Eli Eli Lema

      پیش روز

      @Reino Göransson that’s what that means, yes.

    • Reino Göransson

      Reino Göransson

      پیش روز

      It takes an engineer to build a bridge cheep and safe.

  48. Kevin Lieb

    Kevin Lieb

    پیش روز

    I may be missing something, but wouldn’t those brakes would operate on the support cable, not the haulage cable? Obviously they should never have been disabled, but I would imagine the cable failure was unrelated to the brakes.

    • Walter Pickford

      Walter Pickford

      پیش روز

      Yes indeed so should the haul cable part or fail, the brakes should stop the fall by clamping to the suspension cable. In this case they had been "adjusted" to free off the extra imposed load from friction or drag on the suspension cable (because this was the initial fault). This extra imposed frictional load is directly applied to the haul cable causing early failure.

  49. Dan O

    Dan O

    پیش روز

    Is that a pink vibrator? Awesome.

  50. Jordan Logan

    Jordan Logan

    پیش روز

    The mind boggles...

  51. Mike King

    Mike King

    پیش روز

    And for the same reasons I no longer ride tramways or carnival rides.

  52. Dave Smith

    Dave Smith

    پیش روز

    Hope the company is sued into oblivion..

  53. Bob theGrape

    Bob theGrape

    پیش روز

    A long time ago the

  54. Manuel Dasilva

    Manuel Dasilva

    پیش روز

    Totally right you should have been shut down until it was fixed properly

  55. Bob theGrape

    Bob theGrape

    پیش روز

    Great explanation and a great final statement! You are NOT wrong. Thank you for the video.

  56. Slick Willie

    Slick Willie

    پیش روز

    Italy is one of those countries where everything is run on palms being greased.

    • Al Ian

      Al Ian

      پیش 15 ساعت

      while the US infrastructure is crumbling, one side of congress is acting like ............

  57. Alan Macphail

    Alan Macphail

    پیش روز

    Standard corporate procedure. Disable the safety gear if it gets in the way. Never trust business people .

  58. hyrue

    hyrue

    پیش روز

    Thank you for the informative video

  59. Ricardo Pesenti

    Ricardo Pesenti

    پیش روز

    Good video. Sadly such things happen again and again...

  60. Martin Larsen

    Martin Larsen

    پیش روز

    I like the AI comment

  61. Bob Fugazy

    Bob Fugazy

    پیش روز

    Thanks AvE.

  62. Endless Wanderer

    Endless Wanderer

    پیش روز

    I didn't expect to tear up watching an AvE vidya. This fucking world.

  63. Mickey Mishra

    Mickey Mishra

    پیش روز

    I had a chance to be a safety inspector. (Q.A.) I turned it down. Job right out of the Military. I realized that a person with a Brain Injury would not be a good candidate for the job. I was smart enough to know that.

  64. Raweggs

    Raweggs

    پیش روز

    Theres no bigger killer than profit.

  65. Artur H

    Artur H

    پیش روز

    5:12 That is a good one, hahaha....

  66. Sillygoose210 _

    Sillygoose210 _

    پیش روز

    This is why if you have any doubt in your lifting device whatsoever (fibre/wire/chain slings) you throw it right in the fucking garbage (cutting it into pieces before you do so).

  67. Ettore Galli

    Ettore Galli

    پیش 2 روز

    You are damn right. The only thing they had to do is put safety before profit, and not behind (and the technical side of this was fixing the brakes). Just one thing: in italy there are a lot of criminal managers (in industry in particular) but it is not the rule, there are also good italian managers, and companies where safety comes first, always.

  68. steve naylor

    steve naylor

    پیش 2 روز

    Tech to mgmt: hey the breaks need service. Mgmt costs too much, keep it working or we’ll get a tech who can. 14 people dead. The profit isn’t worth the lives of 14 people. Tell that to Home Depot circa ‘99.

  69. Samuel Lourenço

    Samuel Lourenço

    پیش 2 روز

    Besides being very top heavy, which guarantees that the cabin will get crushed, that thing had no safeties.

  70. Greg Economan

    Greg Economan

    پیش 2 روز

    The infamous failure cascade.

  71. netltube

    netltube

    پیش 2 روز

    Great vid, well thought out and sobering.

  72. Bill Ingemanson

    Bill Ingemanson

    پیش 2 روز

    As with most major accidents, it's another tragic case of "Safety first, following profitability and schedule."

    • Cam Tracey

      Cam Tracey

      پیش روز

      Finally someone said it! This is what it boils down to. The new age!

  73. Dashippo

    Dashippo

    پیش 2 روز

    Acknowledge?......acknowledge?....... acknowledge?

  74. therealxunil2

    therealxunil2

    پیش 2 روز

    Fuckin right you are

  75. Mr_Tea_Rexx

    Mr_Tea_Rexx

    پیش 2 روز

    just because he thinks it cant break doesn't mean it wont happen. Safety always comes first

  76. reddyfreddy

    reddyfreddy

    پیش 2 روز

    Shut the cable car down? That guy would or may have been told to find something else to do and another tech was brought in to "fix" the problem. Ive seen it 50 times in power plants. People either want to avoid any conflict or they really are dirt bags.

  77. Erwin Cooper

    Erwin Cooper

    پیش 2 روز

    It's worlds easier to close the the whole thing and hang a sign that says "Shits broke, don't use it" and hide the keys, than to explain to authorities and clip boards why I thought down time and cost of repair was my problem. Us humans are an odd species.

  78. Kriste Isopahkala

    Kriste Isopahkala

    پیش 2 روز

    "The code is more of what you'd call guidelines, than actual rules" -Italian maintanence crew, probably

    • Cezar Catalin

      Cezar Catalin

      پیش روز

      “The code is just the general vibe we need to have but it’s not mandatory.” -Italian maintenance crew, probably

  79. smart man

    smart man

    پیش 2 روز

    Wow the lawsuits are going to kill that company or is that a government owned tramm?

  80. WeebRemover 4500

    WeebRemover 4500

    پیش 2 روز

    "glass half full, glass half empty, engineer steps up and says- wait a minute. the glass is twice as big as it needs to!" -AvE not even one minute in and im having to pause the video

    • Radech

      Radech

      پیش 27 دقیقه

      @Kirby Spencer It's probably a who said it first vs who said it best, just like standards written in blood. It's remembering it that's important. also personal favourite was the Ach So, which he definitely wasn't the first to say.

    • Kirby Spencer

      Kirby Spencer

      پیش ساعت

      @WeebRemover 4500 It's a great saying, and profound when you first hear it. I use it often. I was just indicating that putting it in quotations and attributing it to AvE was not completely appropriate.

    • WeebRemover 4500

      WeebRemover 4500

      پیش 4 ساعت

      @Kirby Spencer well i havent, not in this body

    • Kirby Spencer

      Kirby Spencer

      پیش روز

      That saying has been around at least 40 years, probably much longer.

  81. MikeB

    MikeB

    پیش 2 روز

    IMHO it's gross negligence as well as gross stupidity. Any technician that disables anything installed for user safety if the device is then to be used should be fired and strung up. Management should know this and it should apply to them as well.

  82. christopher Gooden

    christopher Gooden

    پیش 2 روز

    "yes disable the brakes they are slowing us down"

  83. MHajoha

    MHajoha

    پیش 2 روز

    Cable cars have had emergency brakes for what, decades? Centuries? Yet this engineer decided that all of the engineers who developed that system were idiots, an emergency brake is useless.

  84. Black Peter

    Black Peter

    پیش 2 روز

    "I'll tell you right now why he was dead fucking wrong" that got me right there. I do SEMI S10 audits all the time, I don't give two shits what the likelyhood is, if the possible consequence is "catastrophic" I'm shutting you down, fix your procedure/process/widget.. A 1/1,000,000 failure can happen the first time.

  85. John doe

    John doe

    پیش 2 روز

    "Don't worry, this case is impossible and it will never happen" - famous last words

    • Bob theGrape

      Bob theGrape

      پیش روز

      Yeah, we don't need no stinkin' brakes!

  86. Bill the Welding Sloth

    Bill the Welding Sloth

    پیش 2 روز

    *late 60s* *engineering* *Italian* Three words that, alone, are no threat to human life, but when chained together...

  87. Whirl Wind

    Whirl Wind

    پیش 2 روز

    Clean your workbench and focus on the cables on the Golden Gate Bridge and prevent deaths instead of rushing to ambulance scenes.

  88. Can'tThinkofaName1

    Can'tThinkofaName1

    پیش 2 روز

    If the brakes are dragging....why not tag it out and get it fixed? idk what goes through their heads, disabling safety gear is an easy way to get 20 years in jail and you'd never get a job in the industry again

  89. dutch

    dutch

    پیش 2 روز

    i wonder who called the shots? did the technician just disable the brakes on his own intensive or did he come up with the idea and got it approved with his boss or something. how many people are responsible for this? certainly one technician should not be able to call all the shots right?

  90. Geralt of Rivia

    Geralt of Rivia

    پیش 2 روز

    Someone is going to jail. Same jail as the Costa Concordia captain.

  91. Greg Mac

    Greg Mac

    پیش 2 روز

    AvE stay out of economics. "That's where standards come in to protect us!" As if Italy didn't have standards that prohibited the company and the worker from doing what they did. As if the EU isn't the most heavily regulated economy on the planet. By your logic this accident was impossible. By your logic, McDonald's would be putting arsenic in cheese burgers if regulations didn't prohibit it. Part of the profit motive is netting new and also return customers. To accomplish this a company may want to avoid, wait for it... KILLING THEIR CUSTOMERS.

  92. Ob Fuscated

    Ob Fuscated

    پیش 2 روز

    How about a vidja on the Mexican bridge collapse? The stud welds (shown in the NYT pics) barely penetrated. Drunk children could have welded better and no one could be arsed to knock off the ferrules to eyeball their work.

  93. Electricity taster

    Electricity taster

    پیش 2 روز

    I thought the cable cars were attached to the cable and the cable drove them around. I thought the second cable was just backup.

  94. matt8863

    matt8863

    پیش 2 روز

    Rest their souls...It must have looked like a small plane crash at that site.

  95. alec thenice

    alec thenice

    پیش 2 روز

    This cyclical loading stress explained here helps me understand why some cable pulls have failed in the past. The head was made up in a way where a shackle or married clevice was the point of failure

  96. Paavo Bergmann

    Paavo Bergmann

    پیش 2 روز

    Thanks for this insightful review, especially for your tangents on the contingencies. More people need to have this in their heads just as basic life guidelines, be they engineers or not. And I absolutely share your view on corporations and how to handle them. Afaik, Adam Smith himself pretty much wrote the same thing: Rule them, or it´s gonna be awful.

  97. Mushious

    Mushious

    پیش 2 روز

    I did wondered if this'd come back to Wilhelm Albert's discovery.

  98. FroggyMosh

    FroggyMosh

    پیش 2 روز

    The knowledge and experience in the field on show over these years, combined with these sentiments (>> 1:08). I'd trust you as an enginerd, any day. And I've got trust issues.

  99. Hellseeker

    Hellseeker

    پیش 2 روز

    Man this just makes me never want to ride stuff anymore, especially if it’s outside USA.

    • XX nü XX

      XX nü XX

      پیش روز

      as if such fuckin things in USA never happened ???

  100. Paulo Oliveira

    Paulo Oliveira

    پیش 2 روز

    Very nice, down to earth (no pun intended) considerations. Good job, thank you.

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